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DRDO and French major snecma to finalize engine price for LCA

Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) will soon be finalizing the price of the joint venture with French major Snecma for the development of the engine to power India’s Light Combat Aircraft (LCA). The joint venture will be between DRDO’s Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) and Snecma to create better gas turbine engines to power the LCA. French firm Snecma is expected to bring technology for the hot engine core and GTRE will work on the cold sections. GTRE will have half of the technology work-share and Snecma will have the other half, according to DRDO sources. GTRE will obtain technical know-how and intellectual property rights for the engine.

Once the cabinet committee on security approval is obtained, work will be initiated and the Snecma-Kaveri engine will be designed and built in four years.

GTRE has spent nearly two decades in the development of the indigenous Kaveri engine and it is still overweight by around 150 kilograms and cannot provide sufficient thrust from its core engine, required to power the LCA. A jet engine has a cold and a hot part and the latter forms the core of the engine where combustion and the thermodynamics of the engine take place.

The LCA requires an engine with more than 90 KN thrust, while the Kaveri has thrust of only 65 KN thrust. Even the GE-404 that is powering the LCA has a lesser thrust. Hence, the new Snecma-GTRE venture aims at creating a more powerful engine for the LCA.

As of now, the LCA Mk-1 with India is flying with the GE-404 IN20 despite the fact that it does not meet original requirement specifications for levels of thrust for the LCA.

DRDO has selected the more powerful GE-414 as the alternative engine for LCA Mk-II. However, it has been suggested that when the first 40 GE 404 engines in the initial two squadrons of the LCA for the Indian Air Force (IAF) get phased out, they should be replaced by the Kaveri-Snecma, in future. Not only does DRDO plan to replace the GE engines on the LCA Mk-I with the Snecma-GTRE engine, it intends to include it in the proposed advanced medium combat aircraft and unmanned combat air vehicle.

Earlier, the Kaveri-Snecma joint venture was criticised by the IAF on grounds that Snecma, which is a derivative of the M-88 engine developed for the Rafale aircraft, has a similar core like that of the Kaveri engine and the joint venture involves GTRE building the peripheral of the core, which would not solve the purpose of having the joint venture since it will turn out to be a license production of Snecma.

By the inclusion of Snecma, the purpose of indigenisation is defeated by the GTRE. However, GTRE feels that in the co-development with Snecma, the research and development of GTRE for decades on the Kaveri engine will also be absorbed. Besides, Snecma will bring in the core called "Eco” for the new engine, and integrate it with systems developed for Kaveri and is not hesitant on sharing technology with India.

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Sunil Gupta Posted on: September 06, 2011
DONT PLAY WITH SECURITY OF THE COUNTRY
One thing i know that it is now or never situation for india time has come either make or transfer the technolgy.I thing GTRE is more keen on transfering the technolgy.For god shake don't play the game with country's security.Country's security is not politics our politician are much concerned about thier chair,what opposition says,BABA RAM DEV and MR ANA HAZARE.The day will come public will not tollrate politician and there will be Millitary Raj in the country.
vigneswaran Posted on: November 05, 2011
Inefficient R&D in India
Indian government should understand the urgency to make defense R&D labs more efficient.The Scientists in Indian govt are Scientists only by their posts and not by their work.
SAMPSON KANTHARAJ Posted on: February 01, 2012
I urge both Sunil Gupta and Vignewwaran to exercise patience. We are doing what we ought to. Much
is expected and much will be expected! Expectation is an ever lasting phenomenon. Technology is not developed over night. It is these so called corrupt politicians who have made country self sufficient in Food. In 1950s and 60s we were dependent on food imports. It is these corrupt politicians put a proper financial foundation (Nehruji) which has seen us through bad days. It is these bad politicians who have made India proud by winning wars completely making our enemies surrender. Mr. Vaj pai praised one such corrupt person as Ma Durga.
It is these corrupt politicians brought IT into India. Many called that man a Jeans clad guy and argued about the need of computers. They have stood the test of time. Call them as you want for our words come easily and costs only the Politicians image and dignity. Well Anna has been exposed and is going to be exposed more and more as your dear RSS rep. Ramdev, a yogi has amassed money how is a question every one would like to know. Team Anna including the lady whom we all admired and treasured as a Good police officer has a record of diverting the fund. The other two gentle men have been booked for financial irregularity.
What you say is true a day will come public will not tolerate all these stupid comments like POLITICIANS ARE THE ONLY CORRUPT. LOOK IN TO YOUR OWN SELF AND LOOK AROUND YOU SEE THE SAME MISTAKES IN YOU AND I. If each Indian corrects himself/herself the corruption will be eradicated swiftly and thoroughly.
Please do write but please be a little patient to go through the pages of history before you write.
Wish you both all the best !
abhinandan Posted on: February 04, 2012
only for Mr.SAMPSON KANTHARAJ
dear sampson all the thing you have wriiten is rediculous.
the three war were won by our indian army not by politician
2) our army won the war s on border in 1965-1971 but our politician loose the war on TABLE.till date 150 soldiers of 1965,71 war are under pakistan prison.
3) THE INDIA MAKE IT HUB ONLY BY OUR BUISNESMMEN & IT PROFFESIONAL NOT BUY POLITICIAN
4)ANNA AZARE IS FIGHTING FOR 120 MILLION PEOPLE OF INDIA , BUT OUR POLITICIAN ARE FIGHTING FOR POWER, MONEY.
5)THE RSS PLAY A BIG ROLE IN 1947,65,71,KARGILS. THEY THINK FOR INDIA,
DO FOR INDIA, & DIE FOR INDIA. NOT JUST LIKE OUR POLITICIAN WHO THINK ONLY FOR THEM SELVES
JAI HIND
SAMPSON KANTHARAJ Posted on: February 15, 2012
Dear Abhinandan
I was in the Army and I know how wars are won. The decision has to be political decision. Without that No soldier would venture out to the battle field.
Once again the IT policy was brought by the politicians (Mr. Rajiv Gahdhi) It is a politicians foresight which allowed the IT companies to come in. Pleas flip few pages of news of yester years you will learn.
Anna was questioned by the Bombay High court and they were made to pay the rent for the grounds to hold their agitations. Anna's movements gained momentum because of the RSS backing. There were only 500 people in New Delhi when he gave his call for fasting there and the numbers dwindled. To say that Anna is fighting 120 million people is far fetched and in accurate. Anna's aim is good and means (Gandian ) is also good but at times he uses words like "slapped" and other words which betray his true self is what I don't accede to. Well do you think corruption was created by politicians. Please go through the origin of corruption it is centuries old.
I do not doubt the sincerity of the RSS but only would say they are sincerely wrong in that only area where their organisational setup is like that of Nazis of the old Germany.
We should (I because of my tenure in the Army or you because you are a RSS) not think we are the only Nationalists. The only people who love this country and the only true Indian. Each one born within the constitutional frame is an Indian.
The party which the RSS backed has proved to be worse corrupt then the party which had ruled this country. Have you heard of the Porn-scandal in Karnatka? They were your Political front.
I am not a congress man nor into any other political group. I am just reacting to your reply. I respect you and honour your beliefs but only pointing out there are other schools of thoughts as well. Let us honour, if not honour let us at least bear with them.
I thank you for your resolve to do or die for the country. I thank you for that spirit. But let me tell you there are crores of people like you in this nation who would willingly die for this country and I joined the Army because of that.
What ever the facts I have mentioned though seems ridiculous to you and your kind, they are facts. They are etched in the history of this country.
Well they say Godsey was a RSS man. Is it true? In that case do you advocate killing of people like Gandhiji ? Yeh, in the name of Nationalism. Yeh, he was also a politician!
I love you brother! My gospel is a gospel of love and tolerance and some people are ready to lay their lives for the Gospel of hatred.
SELAH, it means stop and think.
Good by friend!
JAI HIND!
CHITTUR.N.S. Posted on: February 18, 2012
OUR pOLITICIANS
DEAR SAMPSON kANTHARAJ,

IF AT ALL INDIA HAS SINCE INDEPENDENCE IT IS NOT DUE TO OUR POLITICIANS, BUT IN SPITE OF THEM. FUTURE WARS WILL BE FOUGHT BY TECHNOLOGY &NOT BRAVERY ALONE. HENCE ACQUIRING&BECOMING SELF
RELIANT WILL BE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN FUTURE WARS. SLOW & STEADY WILL NOT WIN YES, QUICK & STEADY WILL.

BEST REGARDS,

CHITTUR

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